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What was the difference or division between Golden Harvest and Paragon Films?


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Could someone clarify what the difference or division between Golden Harvest and Paragon Films was?

I know very little about Paragon Films outside the fact their credited on Golden Harvest movies, with such roles as the production company or filming company. I think my main reason for confusion is, I can't personally recall coming across  Paragon Films with out Golden Harvest being involved in someway? (usually production company and/or distributor).

So was Paragon Films a division of Golden Harvest? An independent company? Or something else?

 

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ShawAngela

Could you mention a few titles released by Paragon films, please ?

I had never heard of this company...

Thanks.

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31 minutes ago, ShawAngela said:

Could you mention a few titles released by Paragon films, please ? 

I'm sure you actually know a lot of them very, but just think of them as Golden Harvest titles which a lot if not all are.
Here's the HKMDB link to their credits: http://hkmdb.com/db/companies/view.mhtml?id=1620&display_set=eng

1st 20 according to HKMDB as

 'Production Company:
     H-BOMB (1971)
      The Man from Hong Kong (1975)
      The Hand of Death (1976)
      The Prodigal Son (1981)
      Hired Guns (1981)
      Super Fool! (1981)
      Tower of Death (1981)
      Dragon Lord (1982)
      The Miracle Fighters (1982)
      Postman Strikes Back (1982)
      To Hell with the Devil (1982)
      Zu: The Warriors from the Magic Mountain (1983)
      Project A (1983)
      Duel to the Death (1983)
      The Body Is Willing (1983)
      The Champions (1983)
      Home at Hong Kong (1983)
      Winners and Sinners (1983)
      Wheels on Meals (1984)
      Long Arm of the Law (1984)'

And the 21 HKMDB listed as
'Filming Company
      A Man Called Tiger (1973)
      Immortal Story (1986)
      Nepal Affair (1986)
      To Err Is Humane (1987)
      Long Arm of the Law II (1987)
      Mr. Vampire Saga Four (1988)
      The Bachelor's Swan Song (1989)
      Reincarnation of Golden Lotus (1989)
      Forever Young (1989)
      Doctor Vampire (1990)
      Shanghai Shanghai (1990)
      Zodiac Killers (1991)
      The Cat (1992)
      Super Lady Cop (1992)
      Mary From Beijing (1992)
      Once Upon a Time in China II (1992)
      Changing Partner (1992)
      A Roof with a View (1993)
      Crime Story (1993)
      Red Zone (1995)
      The Day that Doesn't Exist (1995)'

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Omni Dragon

Could someone from the @Moderation Team perhaps, please move this thread/topic to the 'Questions & Answers' section of the forum?

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Jesse Smooth

From what I understand, GH was based on the old United Artist model, where it was a group of serval small production companies and independent producers. Paragon may have been one of those companies under the GH banner. I could be wrong.

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Below is the response I got when I asked the question over at https://industrialhistoryhk.org/golden-harvest-film-studio/:

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Dear James

I don’t know the amswer to your question about Golden Harvest and Paragon. I asked Philip Edward Kenny who runs the HK Film blog
https://hongkongandmacaufilmstuff.blogspot.com/

He sent this reply: I’ve heard of Paragon but don’t know who was behind it. Their existence on the HK company register (incorporated 1972, dissolved 1989) conflicts with the various film sites I use that show it as operating well after its dissolution year…but this is HK so who knows what corporate shenanigans were going on.

From what I can gather it was just one of the many independent production companies in HK operating in the same way as other production companies. Golden Harvest provided funding, studio facilities and distribution (local and overseas) for a film but the individual production company (Paragon) would be the company involved in the actual movie making process.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes
Hugh Farmer

 

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Omni Dragon
3 hours ago, Jesse Smooth said:

From what I understand, GH was based on the old United Artist model, where it was a group of serval small production companies and independent producers. Paragon may have been one of those companies under the GH banner. I could be wrong.

The response I got on https://industrialhistoryhk.org/golden-harvest-film-studio/ parallels what your saying as well what was said in the article on there: 

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The studio was later used to make films by independent companies set up by artistes who then struck a deal with GH for funding, distribution etc. These included Golden Way, Bo Ho Films and Hui’s Film. In the late 1970s the studio was was occasionally rented out to other film companies.

 

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Omni Dragon

The weird thing about Paragon is personally I've seen little that actually separates it from Golden Harvest. Just two things really the company name and specific roles on movies, movies that ultimately have Golden Harvest involvement.

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On 5/24/2020 at 1:10 AM, Omni Dragon said:

The weird thing about Paragon is personally I've seen little that actually separates it from Golden Harvest. Just two things really the company name and specific roles on movies, movies that ultimately have Golden Harvest involvement.

Maybe some intricate business tax/ legal reason. Stuff mostly incomprehensible for me Cbs I Give Up GIF by HULU  

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Omni Dragon

@Chu Liu Hsiang, I have wondered (through speculation) myself if it was some kind of tax avoidance, despite how public the credits are.

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This could be wrong, but I'm sure I read somewhere that Paragon Films was Leonard Ho's company. 

Don't quote me! 

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Omni Dragon

I found text on a poster for the movie H-Bomb that reads:

'PRESENTED BY PARAGON FILMS LTD.

A GOLDEN HARVEST GROUP COMPANY'.

I assume this more or less confirms Golden Harvest owned and/or controlled Paragon?

The poster:

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Text from the bottom right of the poster:

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On a side note while trying to research about Paragon, I came across 'Artpic Company Limited' which may have a connection to Golden Harvest and Armour of God though it's probably not that important...

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Cognoscente

About the first film listed as a 1971 entry, H-Bomb was made after Summertime Killer (1972). In the below interview, Olivia Hussey recalled that H-Bomb was the second time that she had collaborated with Christopher Mitchum.

http://www.themoviewaffler.com/2016/04/waffling-with-screen-legend-olivia.html

In the below interview with Mitchum, H-Bomb is referred to in one of the poster captions as a "a 1972 Golden Harvest Kung Fu flick."

https://jeremylr.medium.com/kung-fu-stunts-and-red-state-politics-with-chris-mitchum-670301358975

Back to Paragon, the official registration date is Friday, May 12, 1972. This was a week into the filming of The Way of the Dragon. The Chinese name of Paragon is Jiafeng whereas Golden Harvest's Chinese name is Jiahe.

https://www.hongkongdir.hk/paragon-films-limited-cqifi/

During a Chinese Google search, I learned that Wong Jing's My Name is Nobody (2000) was produced by a company called Jiafeng who are also known as Kingsford - this company has been credited on a few sites as being involved with what's known as Seasonal's All for the Winner (1990).

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16 hours ago, Cognoscente said:

The Chinese name of Paragon is Jiafeng whereas Golden Harvest's Chinese name is Jiahe.

Putting the Chinese names for Paragon '嘉峰' (Jiā fēng) and Golden Harvest '嘉禾' (Jiāhé) into computer translators; '嘉' (Jiā) seems to mean excellent, '峰' (Fēng) seems to mean peak or summit and '禾' (hé) seems to be related to grain(s).

16 hours ago, Cognoscente said:

During a Chinese Google search, I learned that Wong Jing's My Name is Nobody (2000) was produced by a company called Jiafeng who are also known as Kingsford - this company has been credited on a few sites as being involved with what's known as Seasonal's All for the Winner (1990).

I think All for the Winner (1990) must have been a co-production. On HKMDB (https://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?id=7343&display_set=eng); Golden Harvest is listed under 'Production Companies' along with Seasonal.

I also found All for the Winner on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OerL2VbpJI) and 'Paragon' was in the end credits with the '©' copyright symbol.

A print screen from that YouTube video:

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Typing up this post has made me realize, I've rarely actually seen Paragon in on screen credits without that symbol. Does that mean Paragon acted as a copyright holder of Golden Harvest movies? On HKMDB Paragon is often under 'Filming Company' which to me at least suggest they acted as more than just a copyright holder.

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Jiafeng (Gaa Fung in Cantonese)is/was Paragon, but as how for they were connected to GH I'm not sure. 

Unless, as @Omni Dragon suggests Paragon was GH's filming arm so to speak. Golden Harvest could have been behind the funding, studios, and distribution while Paragon was behind the filming of at least most of their productions. If we look at Golden Harvest's partnerships with the likes of Golden Way, Bo Ho etc, that might tell us that Golden Harvest always considered itself as acting like an independent distributor as opposed to Shaw Brothers' business model.

I did find out that the land on which Golden Studios once stood is now mostly a housing estate called... Kingsford Terrace. The Chinese name includes Gaa Fung. So it seems like the government/housing authority paid some kind of tribute to what once stood there. 

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The waters may be intentionally murky. 'Production' for Golden Harvest might have just meant funding.

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